[Poll] What shall we do with the Q/A failed rings?


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    @shama

    If they've failed on one side, why can't that side be replaced? Is it cheaper to just write off that ring and produce another one, than to replace the defective inlay?

    I think the problem is the work you would put in it. You would have to take all the clear coating and the inlay out, clean the ring perfectly, then reinsert a new inlay, put the coating on it, and polish it. So it's a lot of work and I think making new ones is just cheaper. Maybe the factory pays for it as they didn't do a good job in Q/A themselves.

    I'll ask if it's possible to fix them id so I'll add a do it yourself fix option.



  • Fixing one with a bad side would be something that many (myself included) would like the challenge of doing. or even beyond that, finding some unique use for the opening in the other side. Either just plain aesthetic oir technological. bring it on.


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    I asked John about it. He doesn't think it possible to fix it. The problem is all the coating and glue.


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    @shama, @LoganFive, it's something I talked with John about a little while back and he was of the opinion that it was far easier to just buy a new ring. By all means put forward your ideas and desires though, John has followed the community's desires before when there have been enough people wanting something.


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    Didn't quite finish my thought there - I'd be more than happy to be able to purchase seconds at a reasonable discount so I could hand them out to people I think would be interested in them. They could then go ahead and buy their own completely working ring from John.

    Perhaps offer a grab bag of different sizes and styles, first come first served (as LoganFive suggested)?
    If this happens, I'll be in it.


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    I've updated the introducing post so there is a link to the poll now



  • @Lafunamor said:

    I've updated the introducing post so there is a link to the poll now

    It doesn't seem to register votes.


  • Community Helper

    can you please try again



  • It now says 2 votes, so I guess it worked.


  • Community Helper

    Thanks! Guys please inform me if there are problems with the poll or if you know any better poll system we could use



  • I'm split between "Gift to backers" and "Sell in outlet stores".

    If you can somehow recover that ring by removing the finish, peeling out the faulty NFC inlay and sealing in a new one, all without damaging the ring itself, then it should definitely become a refurbished unit that's available for sale in an outlet type store (or on the NFC Ring store as a refurb'd unit).

    However, if the QA failed rings are not salvageable, then you might as well give them away to backers! If the NFC tags themselves have failed, then the ring itself is essentially useless to anybody who's looking for a NFC-enabled accessory. It suddenly becomes just a ring. A nice titanium ring though!


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    @asbath at this point I gather the NFC ring team would find it easier to not refurb rings, it's probably cheaper and quicker to have the factory make a completely new ring.
    Personally I'd love to be able to get down and dirty with them though, I get attached to 'my' jewellery and theres a certain sense of pride in being able to fix your gear yourself eh.


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    @Lafunamor said:

    I asked John about it. He doesn't think it possible to fix it. The problem is all the coating and glue.

    see above ;-)


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    @asbath said:

    I'm split between "Gift to backers" and "Sell in outlet stores".

    If you can somehow recover that ring by removing the finish, peeling out the faulty NFC inlay and sealing in a new one, all without damaging the ring itself, then it should definitely become a refurbished unit that's available for sale in an outlet type store (or on the NFC Ring store as a refurb'd unit).

    However, if the QA failed rings are not salvageable, then you might as well give them away to backers! If the NFC tags themselves have failed, then the ring itself is essentially useless to anybody who's looking for a NFC-enabled accessory. It suddenly becomes just a ring. A nice titanium ring though!

    The problem we have though is that not all Q/A failed rings are created equal so to speak

    The failures could go into

    a) Fail Visual

    b) Fail Read (99% one side)

    c) Fail Read and Fail Visual

    Only 1% of rings have fail reads on both sides. So the rest of them are split between rings that look great but only work on one side and rings that are visually not perfect but perform to expectation.

    It would be great if we could do some combination of all the options (apart from destroying them). There are some rings which look really really good and it would be a shame to see them potentially be destroyed. It's a really tricky one trying to work out which could be the best route to take.


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    Accoring to @NFCringTom suggetion I edited my site and added polls for the four sets of failed ring. I've also made them multiple choice so you guys can select more options.

    Please note that you have to re vote.
    @asbath @LoganFive @Lokki @Memnoch @shama @skaiiol

    Link: http://swissgadgetguy.blogspot.ch/2014/04/nfc-ring-forum-poll.html


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    Just to add something into the mix, even the failed read rings might have their uses - I have one failed inlay on a ring I have for testing purposes. I've found that it's impossible to distance read, and I do mean impossible. But if I place it against a reader and exert the most minimal amount of pressure the chip comes back into contact with the antenna and reads 100%.

    I kinda like that.



  • It's a "feature" :)


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    @asbath said:

    It's a "feature" :)

    That's my thought too. ;-)



  • As said on the post of Lokki, why don't you offer them to guys who make you some add, or find new feature to add to the app, or create something cool with the ring?


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    Yep, that's already in progress. If someone comes up with ideas and shares them with the community then they'll get a QA visual fail ring for each realised idea. We want to see people starting cars, open boxes, hacking NFC into things that didn't have it to start with and basically inserting the ring into daily life in any and every way imaginable!

    https://forum.nfcring.com/topic/189/calling-all-innovators-please-read-ring-bounty-for-invention