Horizon vs. Eclipse - Operational Distance



  • Hello.

    I want to purchase the new 2016 NFC Ring, after i saw what it can do on my friend's finger :D But, before doing that i want to know if there is a diffrence in Operational Distance between Horizon and Eclipse.

    My friend has Horizon variant and i tested it with my Galaxy S5, which has not so powerful NFC antenna like my friend's Moto X 2014, but it worked quite well on my ring finger, even with a case on. I would like to buy an Eclipse variant (because it looks better for me, and i don't want to copy my friend's ring :D ), but i don't know if they have the same Operational Distance.
    Eclipse was not included in the graphs on Kickstarter page, and also I noticed that, they have some minor changes in specs, but unfortunately i don't know what they exactly mean. And, this brings me to my question, if there is any diffrence between those two. If yes, which one has better range, because it is quite important for comfortable use on this phone.

    Thanks,
    Luke



  • Basically there is no difference in the range - Both are 2016 series.

    The only difference is just the design. Eclipse is black fiber + black, while the Horizon is transparent + black.



  • @SwordFire said:

    Basically there is no difference in the range - Both are 2016 series.

    The only difference is just the design. Eclipse is black fiber + black, while the Horizon is transparent + black.

    Its possible that there is a difference. In the 2013 range the carbon fiber caused a massive fall in readability for the tag, it caused no one to get their 2013 fiber rings. I think we need @johnyma22 to give some feedback on this to be sure.


  • Community Helper

    @luki7151 and @jasok2 - the main reason for the time that it took to create a "fiber" ring is because carbon fiber proved impossible to use due to the RF blocking effects of the carbon in carbon fiber.

    You'll mostly see/hear John refer to the new rings as simply fiber. There's no carbon there, no detrimental effects on the RF field and most importantly no difference in usable range.
    That's the end result of John's huge commitment to R&D that I think he's too modest about - because carbon fiber was no good, John researched and developed his own custom weave fiber!


  • NFC Ring Team

    Eclipse has about 97% the operational range of Horizon. This is caused by the inlay being further away from the target device (due to the additional thickness of the groove).



  • @johnyma22 said:

    Eclipse has about 97% the operational range of Horizon. This is caused by the inlay being further away from the target device (due to the additional thickness of the groove).

    Thank you John, for your detailed anwser for my question. So, it's not that big of a deal afterall, if it's just only 3% difference between them. I think, i should be good to go with Eclipse variant.


  • NFC Ring Team

    Disclaimer: 3% can be make or break in some environments ;)



  • @johnyma22 said:

    Disclaimer: 3% can be make or break in some environments ;)

    Apparently one such application is the NFC express it works fine with the Horizon and barely works at all with the Eclipse.

    I cant wait for our kickstarter to go ahead so we can use better reading hardware !


  • Community Helper

    @jasok2 better hardware for sure! It'd still be awesome if one of our community members is experienced in Arduino bootloader writing, a modified arduino as a reader would be fun.



  • @Lokki said:

    @jasok2 better hardware for sure! It'd still be awesome if one of our community members is experienced in Arduino bootloader writing, a modified arduino as a reader would be fun.

    Whilst i agree, for mass adoption I think we need a simple installer and the ability to just plug in ready to go USB readers.


  • Community Helper

    @jasok2 yes, that's what it'll be - I'd still like to see someone hack an arduino bootloader together that made a keyduino for instance turn into a substitute reader.


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