Would you implant an NFC chip into your hand?
Memnoch last edited by
I was reading a different story about this a few weeks ago...seems to be getting more & more popular.
there is a lot of danger with implanting nfc tags specially with those glass tubes as they can break and lead to poisoning.
Nairod785 last edited by
Definitely. I'm just waiting for a more capable tag first.
I know a fella locally who has done it with no issues. Not to say nothing bad could ever happen, but you don't often hear about it going wrong.
Our good friend Amal provides these tags, he is an expert in implants and NFC / RF stuff, I just wanted to share my thoughts on why we didn't go with glass capsules or implants for this project.
- The capsules can smash (They contain copper), I don't think Amal has had this issue yet but under our testing with our provider we had this issue, I'm sure Amal will be using tougher glass than we did initially. It'd be cool if Amal can publish some test results showing what temperatures/levels of force the tags can operate at in the same way we have done with the NFC Ring.
- The RF field created by the capsules provide no way of restricting access, the ring provides a clear public/private portion with a metallic area to stop aggressive inductance from a distance which is how we introduced passive security.
- IC storage is moving forward in leaps and bounds so you would want to replace your implant periodically, naturally this isn't ideal, I'm not sure what the proposal is here..
Like I said Amal knows what he's doing so it's likely if you want to go down the implant route as long as you are aware of the disadvantages (there is a disadvantage with every approach) you are going to have a positive experience :)
Disclaimer: I'm invested in Amals project so I'm not saying it's a bad way forward, it's just the NFC Ring took a different approach.
Note: Amal sits on this forum so might wanna throw his 2 cents in :)
amal last edited by
Hi guys :)
Our glass tags use Schott bioglass, biosafe epoxy resin, and biosafe resin coating on the copper antenna coil wire. We've done crush testing and have posted our results to our Facebook page; http://facebook.com/dangerousthings - in short, the tags are extremely fragile when outside the body and placed between two unforgiving metal plates, but once implanted into flesh (we used raw chicken as an analog), they can put up with quite a bit of pressure/force. We maxed out the machine at 500N and still the tags did not break.
We feel the extremely low read range of the tags themselves offer enough privacy protection since a direct read of a tag would need to be very up close and personal. Also, since our xNT uses an NTAG216 chip, the user has the option to protect the memory contents of their tag using a password, so no random passer-by could read it. The NTAG216 also supports elliptic curve authenticity encryption so you can query the tag in a secure way to ensure it is a tag you're talking to and not an emulator. This increases overall system safety.
Thanks Amal I knew you'd have this covered :)
Just to add to this, the NFC Ring is gonna be getting the 216 Treatment soon too, not got an exact date set yet though!