Samsung Galaxy S4
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Hey, as I'm sadly also running into this issue with my S4:
What S4 model are you guys using and what S4 model are you using for testing?
I've got an i9505 here. -
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Should we just suggest changing to an alpha if you aren't happy with the classic ring size performance?I'm happy either way so just tell Lokki what you think / want and then Lokki if you can drop me through an email when there is a community consensus :)
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Sounds like a good plan there, John.
So, everybody... Speak now or forever hold your peace. ;-)
Personally I haven't run into any problems with either the normal or the alpha, but there are going to be some phones where the mismatch between antennas is too much if other factors are coming into play.
Hands up those who agree with a change from classic to alpha for legitimate read issues.
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SAMSUNG GT-I9505, we test with this phone because it's the most common phone that struggles most with small tags.
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The regular ring does work on the Galaxy S4 (using GT-I9505). There is a catch though - must not use any additional cover/case... I can easily unlock the phone while not using the case. With the case on, it is futile.
I had tried using a cover which is similar to the S-View Cover, and it works intermittenly due to slightly thicker back cover. Anybody over here tried using the original S-View Cover (or the Flip Cover)?
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Yeah, there's the rub mate... it works on your S4, but may not work on others (and may work through cases on some others).
Use others experiences as a guide but don't be too shocked if your own experiences with the galaxy series are markedly different. -
Not really shocked, but surprised that the ring can only be read intermittenly through the Sumsung S-View Cover/Flip Cover (managed to find the Sumsung-branded Flip Cover and tested). The back cover is just slightly thicker than the phone original back cover.
I'm going to try something else, and will report back in 2 weeks.
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I have identified the sweet spot on my i9505 with the normal ring, but only once out of 20 tries, the phone detects the ring on the first or second try. I can't use it this way. any chance to change to an alpha ring?
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Hello, Andreas, yes there is. If you read all the posts in this thread then you'll see that for those of us with real, persistent issues there is the option of contacting support@nfcring.com and explaining the issue to them and requesting a possible swap to Alpha size.
Please do try other methods and understand that the ring most likely needs to be close in on the phone before it will trigger a read. -
After using for three more weeks trying out different solutions, I've decided to request for a change to alpha ring instead. Even though the classic ring works well, I can't live without the front cover. Too scary to use a phone without a protective cover, especially for me with butterfingers. :)
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I have an S4 GT-i9505.
With the standard case on my phone I can get the ring to work very unreliably in one spot, not enough to be useable. If I put the S4’s protective case on (an Incipio) it does not work at all anywhere.
The loose NFC tag that came with the ring works fine even with the protective cover on. I even bent the loose NFC tag into a ring like curve and that worked fine too, again even with the protective cover on.
I then tried holding the loose NFC tag against the ring (on a bare part) and that then didn’t work. Hmmm, the last thing I tried was wrapping the loose NFC tag around a similarly sized plain silver ring and that didn’t work either.I have several 25mm NFC stickers that work up to 20mm away from the back of my S4 with the protective case on.
I have read through the forums and it sounds like I need to swap my Classic ring for an Alpha??
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Hi @Duncan - it sounds like you've worked out for yourself why you're having issues, the metal of the ring can make it more difficult to read on a phone that isn't quite working to spec. This is why the special absorber layer is so very important to the function of the ring.
These issues can be alleviated by requesting a change to Alpha from support@nfcring.com as the antenna in the Alpha will be more closely matched to the antenna loop in the phone. -
The returns procedure is here: http://nfcring.com/returns
You guys can just refer to that as that's what we follow internally too :) Thanks!
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I have been working with my ring for a couple of months now.
The phone is a Google Play edition S4. Model GT-I9505G with stock Samsung Battery.Without any case on the back, the phone sees the ring in a very small sweetspot.
With ANY case on the phone, it does not see the ring at all. I have worked with this for quite a while, very patiently.
Cases I have tried:
Samsung folio case.
Otterbox Commuter.
Spigen Slim Armor.So, I will be returning this ring. I really wish this worked, and if there is a version of the ring that works for this phone through decent cases, I would be happy to try it.
Barry
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@Barry-Condrey, it sounds like you have a classic band. Have you considered requesting a change to an Alpha band from support?
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Hello to all....I'm new to the nfc scene and am looking at the ring as a good into into the world with the hopes of moving into bigger and better things as I go along...
.now I've got the i9506 and was reading this thread, should I just buy an alpha ring strait up? Or try the standard types first? -
Hi @MarkGabb, just for the moment only classic bands are available from the online shop. This should all gear up a bit more in anticipation of Christmas, so keep an eye on it.
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Hi All,
I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 i9505 device.
Whick kind of NFC tag supported by this device?
As I experienced the NTAG203(F) is supported, which others are? -
Hi @ujtordai, that device should support all compliant NFC tags. The NFC Ring team do their QA testing with an S4 before rings are marked ok and sent out.
