Hey guys,
Sadly Google decided to remove the APIs we need for NFC Ring Unlock and therefor it's no longer available for Android Users.
The APK is still available for those who wish to sideload.
Apologies for this but as you can imagine it's out of our hands.
All hail our new overlords \o/
Hey guys I updated the Google Spreadsheet w/ what door locks work w/ the SLE77 or not so please refer to that :)
Hey @jasok2 thanks for taking your time and sharing this.
Agreed if it opened Samsung doors like the OPN et al then it would be great. It does work with some door locks and we have some partnerships where we're extending that but it's still annoying that Samsung don't seem to want to support the full NFC stack ;( We have reached out on several occasions but made very little progress!
More on 5 & 6 from the engineering side..
Disclaimer: Massively oversimplifying things..
The way the chip in the ring works is it ramps up power consumption from the magnetic field (inductive coupling) and then "attempts the transaction"..
The reader recognizes the ring in field, powers it up, the reader then requests the authorization for the transaction and this causes the ring to attempt to pull additional power from the field which unfortunately on those terminals is unavailable. So the ring at this point does a kind of "brown out" which causes a "debounce" type scenario where the reader will display something like "only present one card" or "multiple cards present", this is because the chip/IC in the ring essentially went back to step 0 where the reader wanted to be at step 3/4.
The fix put in place a while back by the reader company was to increase power available in the field after ring is detected prior to the transaction.. Obvious really but it was in line with the EMV requirements of supporting wearables at range across terminals.. It causes the terminal to use a tiny amount of additional power for the duration of the transaction but that's it.
Being on the bleeding edge has it's costs but we're all working hard to improve the infrastructure and the devices :)
So to improve #5 & #6 we just have to sit tight I'm afraid and wait for those terminals to be phased out.
@jasok2 if you can let me know the error you get when you try #5 I can validate my above assumption!
Thanks again for taking your time and supporting our work :)
We're all waiting for dust to settle.. Again apologies for lack of updates...
RE comms on payment stuff: We just have a good enough story to tell that it's worth waiting to tell it.. But yeah, we grow impatient here too but we'd rather not rush out something that falls apart..
FWIW we have 5 figures of payment rings live on networks so we're getting plenty of feedback and making it awesome for when you guys get yours.
Apologies for the wait guys!
Hey man, yeah it's taking a long time but we have some pretty amazing things to announce and those things take time to prepare/launch. We don't want to do things by half!
Safe to say everything is going to land, just a matter of timing!
FWIW we haven't taken any money from anyone so she is totally safe :)
STRONG AND STABLE
Bits, bytes... 8 bits in a byte..
215 x 8 = 1,720Kb
Basics... I feel like this didn't need my input ;)
Each Jeweler will have their own approach, but let the Jeweler know the material is titanium and to add material to that. If you heat up the ring too much the epoxy will melt and the inlays will fail so be careful not to apply too much heat. It's usually a lot cheaper to just buy replacement rings.
A competent jeweler could remove some material in between the inlays I suppose :) I'd like to see pics of this if you do this.
RE #2 we have a team who work on custom rings. Unfortunately each ring is $10k+ as it requires management and hand crafting. See our Henry Holland rings as an example of this.
@sumastavr We fixed that problem a while ago, you got a first version of the ring (I guess there must be some still in stock somehow :().
Everyone who had the inlay peeling fault got a free replacement ring, no questions asked and we covered all costs.
To us this is a resolved issue, we replace faulty rings with good (newer versions). Apologies you got two of the older versions, shoot support through an email (if you haven't already), the chance of you being third time lucky is < 0.1%.
For background on the issue (because I believe now is a good time). The epoxy keying was not good enough and the curved nature of the ceramic meant the glue / epoxy wasn't staying in the ring long enough. We resolved this and have created new testing machines to ensure durability.
We have obviously advanced way past this initial design (which was designed in 2013) and moving forward you guys are going to love what we put out.
Warts and all, happy to talk about it, no product is perfect, our V1 wasn't, our V1.1 was a bit better and easily surpasses any replicas / copies available to purchase.
PS we're not quick at replying on forum etc. right now because we're busy all hands on deck getting the Worlds First Payment Rings out the door :)
We're due to start notifying and fulfilling some pre-orders super soon :) Sit tight!
We got new rings in but they sold out super quick (already pre-reserved by corp clients). I think some more should be due in soon, we did recently get a delivery but I'm not sure on the status of QA checks
Holy cow the Lycos infringements are so bad, I notified them several times prior to this but they are just getting worst. We might be forced into action here :(
Tried an irevo lock today and it only works w/ Mifare EV1 tags
Going as quick as we can guys! We're rocking though!
FWIW we ended up fixing the inlay peel issue on the Horizon and Eclipse rings. The latest production (Horizon & Eclipse) rings have the issue resolved. The issue never effected the 2013 rings.
The Horizon and Eclipse issue was caused by a radius on the inner face of where the inlay was inserted which allowed a gap to form over time (water ingress / expansion/contraction (due to heat) etc.) - once you have a crack then most people (including me) enjoy getting their nail in or time just removes the inlay completely.. To solve this we polish the ring a lot less creating a harder radius on that edge which stops the inlay from allowing any material in.
At the end of the day we're an engineering company and having failures taught us a lot about how to test for durability.
Our payment rings are tested beyond anything we have ever made before. We have exceptionally high expectations and have spent a lot of resources making sure we get it right first time around (famous last words)...
Apologies for the initial Horizon, Eclipse, Helios durability. This was our learning experience w/ Ceramics and bonding Epoxy to them reliably. All rings that went faulty were replaced Free of charge without any return required.
If your ring is going faulty. Please request a replacement. Email support@nfcring.com
Our test criteria / tools / machines / documentation are ridiculously thorough now. I can't share any images/videos etc. because they are protected IP but safe to say we recognize the importance of rings that are reliable and quality of build is paramount to our approach.
Does that answer your question?
It's important we accept when we make mistakes and do everything we can to provide the absolutely best user experience with our rings given the resources we have (which thankfully are pretty ample nowadays and will be even more ample moving through 2017!)...
Thanks for the support guys!
Ugh, keep us posted, it sounds painful and the Asus Express product is not the best :(
Yea we spotted Motiv and Tappy this week. It's super great to see the industry we created in bloom! *proud
I just upgrades to this lock and it's awesome, I hope we can get it on the store soon.
On previous versions of other Samsung locks you have to touch the lock first to wake up NFC, on this one you don't and this makes me very happy!