Posts made by bunker

@Lokki said:

Just to weigh in on this, I think this kind of thing is better to be filtered through the forums rather than through a support form. Granted, the support form didn't work - perhaps it was an issue with the size of the request, but still I'd like to see this kind of thing filter through this thread or the rings for innovation thread, cos that's what it boils down to.

Ok. So what I did was send a request for a number of rings for an open Android hacker group that I attend from time to time. The thought in short is to get some rings to use for innovation, be it new apps or adding nfc(-ring) support to existing apps. It's a great group of developers in my opinion and the thought was to try to organize an NFC hack-night.

I think it would be great if this was arranged in other parts of the world as well, using those QA-failed rings to bring potentially lots more use for the rings.

I'm not going to re-iterate a bunch of details since I've already written it twice and it's honestly getting a bit tedious.

If you refer to the rings for innovation thread, I don't feel that this matches, as my idea is to get QA-fail rings in advance, on the basis that they may be used for innovation. I don't really see this option in the current poll, but this is what I feel is the best use of those rings, regardless of wether the group I attend gets rings or not.

@Lafunamor Agree. But unfortunately as a user it's impossible to know and since the concept of contact forms doesn't require them to work, it means you won't know. And because of that I normally avoid them. And I believe that's why we shouldn't have them at all.

I didn't get a ticket-number so it looks like my pitch is gone into the cyperspace trash-pile. Serves me right for using a contact form on a web-site, they don't work reliably like email or PM on a forum.

Oh well, I wrote a new pitch to Lokki in a PM.

I sent a message a couple of weeks ago asking about the possibility of "donating" some QA fail rings to an Android hacker group I take part in for use in an NFC-night to inspire new app-integration. I believe I used the contact form on the web-page, since I can't find a copy of a sent e-mail.

Is it fair to assume since no reply was received, there is no interest in that sort of activity at the moment? I know things are busy, but a simple answer like "let's look at this in the autumn" or "yes" or "no" would be fine.

Thanks for both of your advice.

I've had unclear shipping notice(s) earlier so I'd like to know that we are in sync with what has been sent and received by me. So unless I get an email next week I'll just doublecheck with Support.

Has all the e-mails to backers that haven't received rings been sent out? Or in other words, should I wait further before I contact Support about not receiving the email even though I receive all other emails from NFC Ring and KickStarter?

I can only find information about it in the Google I/O keynote, but that is not very surprising.

If you want to see the segment, it's 53 mins into the keynote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtLJPvx7-ys#t=2623
But there's not really much info.

I couldn't find a specific session during the conference about personal unlocking but it seems reasonable it will be included in at least one presentation.

I'll wait until after Google I/O
https://forum.nfcring.com/topic/290/google-io-dates

I just spent more than two hours going through most of the Kickstarter updates and watching all the update videos associated up until the Kickstarter funding completed. As far as I can find there is nothing in there about the changed inlay sizes. I read through relevant sections all the way through to this spring without a mention. I did find a mention in a video from March, but thats 7 months after KS closed.

Please support your claim of informing backers before August 19 that the inlays would be same size. Give a reference to a specific update.

Also you claim there has been the choice to have same colored inlays was discouraged. Please support that claim with specific communications as well, I have yet to see anything like that.

Well, when I look at the Kickstarter page, it's quite easy to get the impression that there are one or more working prototypes. In fact that is a Kickstarter requirement. Too bad the protoypes weren't matching the real rings then.

Since you appear less than convinced of the behavior I posted a Youtube video of the problem. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=06gvy6x8dTw

If I understand it correctly, that is the general timeout for unlock so if I set it to 5 minutes, it wont lock for NFC Ring unlocking until that timeout? Thats no help, I want it to lock quickly in general.

Lokki, which setting exactly do you mean? On Ring, On Disconnect, or On Answer? Neither really seems to apply to an outgoing call.

Lokki wouldn't that still lock the phone 5 minutes in to the call? I do speak for more than 5 minutes in some calls.

lafunamot, which setting specifically causes this by default? This happened to me with default settings as well.

Lokki, with all respect to your opinion I disagree, I backed basedon the information on Kickstarter. That information clearly showed different sizes. You can of course feel the motives to change is good but I'm also entitled to be disappointed. As I said I know it cant be undone and this is just feedback for the future.

Is there anything wrong with choosing a ring with same colors on both sides?? That was never adressed on the Kickstarter page. And after that it's too late because I'm committed with the info given on KS.

I was planning all along to go with a ring with a plain surface, with tag colors matching the ring "template".

I guess I missed the update by John that the tags were changed to be the same size front and back and I understand that the issue is closed for current production since most rings are already produced.

But for future design and production and as a sort of review, I'd like to note that I think it was a bad solution. How do I tell the difference between the front and the back tag? Or if you prefer, the private and the public tag? I only have a provisional ring at this time but it will be both inconvenient and a security issue not knowing which tag is facing up/out.

Also, please excuse my bluntness but I think it's an unfair change to Kickstarter backers. I backed on Kickstarter based on the design showed there and it clearly had different sized tags so I'd be able to distinguish top and bottom tag. When I asked this question by email I got the reply that the change was communicated. In one of the 30+ updates....... But that doesn't help me at all, I can't back out of backing a project. You make it really hard for me to want to recommend NFC Ring to friends.

Hi, I recently received an NFC Ring and used the latest Unlock app. But when i make an outgoing call and put the phone against my ear the screen is dimmed (or black at least) and after that I need to unlock the phone to access anything on the phone including the call controls to hang up or answer a second incoming call. This is a big inconvenience and should be removed.

I looked in the settings for the app but there are none for outgoing calls or calls in general that I could see. I did try a few of the other call settings but nothing changed the behavior.

I can post a video if you need clarification.

Any ideas? Otherwise I'll file it in the bugtracker.