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    [Poll] What shall we do with the Q/A failed rings?

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    • Lokki
      Lokki Community Helper last edited by

      Yep, that's already in progress. If someone comes up with ideas and shares them with the community then they'll get a QA visual fail ring for each realised idea. We want to see people starting cars, open boxes, hacking NFC into things that didn't have it to start with and basically inserting the ring into daily life in any and every way imaginable!

      https://forum.nfcring.com/topic/189/calling-all-innovators-please-read-ring-bounty-for-invention

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        RevInstant last edited by

        I'm assuming my order hasn't been packaged yet. I'd love one of the failed transparent/carbon fiber alphas __ Just to see what it'll eventually look like.

        Transparent/black is cool but my heart was with that carbon lol

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        • gth
          gth last edited by

          (Second option, in the second poll on the page has a typo = "grab gab sell" instead of "grab bag")

          Maybe have them as a buy-one-get-one-cheaper option? Some kind of bundle deal so "real" sales still happen (rather than just a cheap stand-alone sale that lessens the reputation of all the NFC rings that are actually 100%) ?

          PS: Just a quick point regarding the bounty offer for hackable guides and sending out QA fail rings: Hackers-who-are-backers > hacker-pre-orderers > hackers-who-haven't-bought-a-ring-yet. Just a thought. I'm about to get my hack on with some NFC stickers given I still have no ring, as I now have Arduino + NFC shield.

          PPS: Any chance of a wiki for build-guides and better sharing (and improving) of How-To instructions? (preferably including image hosting)

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          • Lokki
            Lokki Community Helper @gth last edited by

            @gth, the rings for innovation that I've got at the moment are a tiny percentage of the QA fails and at the moment there aren't many contributors so it may as well be first come first served, though I will try to favour backers and truly helpful sorts. So if you feel like contributing anything, go for it. You too, @RevInstant - I don't have any carbon fiber to give away but I do have a few visual fail stealth bombers which look pretty nice until you hunt for the flaws. John has made a point of making this side of things very community driven so it's up to us to push things along and make the things we want to happen, happen.

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            • Lafunamor
              Lafunamor Community Helper last edited by

              @gth said:

              PPS: Any chance of a wiki for build-guides and better sharing (and improving) of How-To instructions? (preferably including image hosting)

              can you request this in a separate thread please? I think it's a great idea

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              • johnyma22
                johnyma22 NFC Ring Team last edited by

                Hey guys, an update on this we're posting the link to this thread on the next update and asking people to share there ideas.

                We now have 5,000 QA failed rings and the potential of getting another 6,000 so a total of 11,000 rings available. It's time to decide on what to do! :)

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                  asbath last edited by

                  Wow. I'd dare say that you could give out 1 failed ring to each backer, and then still have enough left over for some other sort of grab-bag item.

                  I don't mean to belittle your efforts or those of the manufacturer, but jeez that's a lot of failed rings :(

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                  • Nairod785
                    Nairod785 last edited by

                    Is it possible to get back inlays from all those rings?

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                    • Lafunamor
                      Lafunamor Community Helper last edited by

                      I've discussed this and repairing the rings with John. The problem is that all is glued in and you can't get the clear coat away. So no, there is no way to get the inlays back.

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                      • Nairod785
                        Nairod785 last edited by

                        Ho maybe an idea.
                        By using the 3D model of the ring, create a surface layer

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                          jasok2 last edited by

                          @Lafunamor said:

                          John asked the community on KS what to do with the Q/A failed rings. See here for the original post.
                          So I started this tread to have a place

                          attach them to a nice card which says

                          "Hi I'm a visually failed ring, I'm yours for free, if you like me and find a use for me, please order a new ring at http://store.nfcring.com/"

                          then send me about 20-30 of them and I will give them out at work. I work in an IT firm so they will definitely generate interest, and hopefully more sales :)

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                            jasok2 @jasok2 last edited by

                            @jasok2

                            OK so replying to my own post, Iv since watched the 30 min update video, and now understand this can't cost anything. I still think they could somehow get used for marketing. Also perhaps sold to the community in bags of 20 or 50 or 100 random rings for the cost of delivery.

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                            • Lafunamor
                              Lafunamor Community Helper last edited by

                              I definitely like the idea of using them as marketing instrument. I would love to have some to give to my friends who are asking me about my ring so they can try and get sucked in ;-)

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                              • Lafunamor
                                Lafunamor Community Helper last edited by

                                Infos about the Q/A failed rings from John
                                http://youtu.be/FL5NOA3ncv0?t=24m17s

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                                  anlek last edited by anlek

                                  You might think about donating it to makerspaces across the world. They would take the rings and build great products around them! I know of a new starting makerspace in the Yukon (Canada) that would love to play with these. Checkout yukonstruct.com! :)

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                                  • Lokki
                                    Lokki Community Helper last edited by

                                    +1 for @anlek's idea there. I think that would be a brilliant marketing tactic.

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                                      Sharon Kay @anlek last edited by Sharon Kay

                                      @anlek said:

                                      You might think about donating it to makerspaces across the world. They would take the rings and build great products around them! I know of a new starting makerspace in the Yukon (Canada) that would love to play with these. Checkout yukonstruct.com! :)

                                      This is a fantastic idea ... I was actually logging on to suggest the same!!! I am a member of Kansas City's oldest hackerspace ... CCCKC ... http://www.c3kc.org/ We are located in the United States in Kansas City, Missouri.

                                      The people in our hackerspace won't care if there are visual imperfections ... no... they will concentrate on the technology and discover what can they do with it ... these people have creative minds and are tinkering with all kinds of technology. I would love to have some rings sent to our hackerspace to experiment with!! We are involved in the Maker Faires that are popping up all over ... some of our members travel from one edge of the country to another sharing their projects at these different Maker Faires.

                                      Let me know if you are interested so I can supply our new address. Our group is moving in about 10 days to a new location which will be located inside a university with a lot of students in an electronics engineering program, programming students, networking students ... just to name a few. What a great project that would be to inspire us ... and I bet even attract new members to our club!

                                      Sharon

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                                        Sharon Kay @LoganFive last edited by

                                        @LoganFive said:

                                        Fixing one with a bad side would be something that many (myself included) would like the challenge of doing. or even beyond that, finding some unique use for the opening in the other side. Either just plain aesthetic oir technological. bring it on.

                                        I am sure the people in my hackerspace would consider it a challenge to try to accomplish! :-)

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                                          shama last edited by

                                          Just watched the long video, and here's my thoughts on the 'what to do with 6000 visual fail rings'.

                                          • Definitely don't sell them in bags of 100 to backers. As you say, this will just cause a flood of poor quality rings to appear on eBay.
                                          • Selling to backers for cost of shipping/packaging is ok, but limit it to 1 or 2 per backer.
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                                            Karenna last edited by

                                            You guys should send QA failed rings out to backers who haven't received a damn thing yet ASAP.
                                            It's the least you can do for those of us who have been waiting a long time, and still have no end in sight.

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